building valuations

 

Drainage and Manholes

 

If you need help and advise with regard to structural surveys, building surveys, engineers reports, specific defects reports, such as advising you on dampness (we call these dampness defects reports), cracks in your property, woodworm, wet rot and dry rot (we call these wood defects reports). For a friendly chat please free phone 0800 298 5424.

 

Let us travel back in time Sewerage used to be literally thrown out on the streets into an open gully

 

History tells us that we all used to literally throw their sewerage into the streets, from what we understand, with an open gully running down the centre of the street, which finally, via various ducts, made its way into the sewers, which were typically local streams.

 

Let us talk about drainage pipes!

The drainage pipe was the invention that took us from open gullies, exposed sewerage systems and rainwater systems, to the more civilised drainage systems that we see today, or to be more precise, don't see today.

 

Clay drainage pipes

Clay drainage pipes were originally used, being butt-jointed, which means laying them next to each other and which means an element of leakage on very old pipes. These ran as things progressed, socket joints were used, as well as bedding materials. We are generally talking here about four and six inch pipework. Larger drains used hard rope to seal the joints.

 

Brick pipes

 

You can see brick drainage pipes in films such as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!Larger pipes tend to be formed of brick, often used in action films as the escape route, i.e. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. They were originally formed in vitreous clay. Interestingly, the original pipes were far rougher with falls for four inch pipes (100mm), being recommended at 1 in 40 and for six in pipes at 1 in 60, although with modern smoother pipes it is said you can have a fall of 1 in 100.

 

 

How is the fall in a drain really worked out?

How not to work out the fall for a drain!

We would like to recount our very first experience of drains, when we were asked to hold the staff by the surveyor so that he could work the levels out. They didn't work, so when the clerk of works came to check he asked us to put the staff on top of our boot to make it appear as if there was a fall. What we didn't appreciate at the time was that we were an accessory to the property having poor drainage forever and a day.

 

Pitched fibre pipes

We have spoken to a contractor who regularly digs up the ground to replace pipes and he advises that he often finds pitched fibre pipes that have collapsed, or been compressed, by the weight of the earth. They are no longer used and we have just about replaced all the ones that we did use.

 

Plastic pipes

The most commonly used pipes today for smaller work. Interestingly, when we spoke to the contractor about its use he said that the handling, as they are lighter, was much better and they cut much easier, using a wood saw, whereas in days gone by you had to use a pipe chain to cut clay pipes, which was far harder, we are advised by someone who had to use them.

Drainage systems and how they work

How do our drainage systems work today?

The systems are generally split into sewerage or foul water and rainwater or surface water.

 

Combined drainage

In years gone by both the foul water and the rainwater used to be collected and discharged into the same pipework, but as the years have gone on it was decided that it would be best if the two were collected separately. From what we understand, this has a few benefits; the first being that where there has been a heavy downpour there wasn't a back up of sewerage in the system and, secondly, that the sewerage systems didn't spend forever cleaning the relatively clean rainwater and surface water.

 

Modern drainage systems

Here, the foul water/waste water and the rainwater/surface water are captured separately and disposed of separately, with the rainwater going into soakaways, positioned away from the house, and the sewerage being taken away to either septic tanks or mini-sewerage treatment plants, or being taken further afield to the local sewerage treatment plant.

 

Septic tank diagramSeptic tank

It is worth talking about septic tanks, as there are still a lot of these about. We would describe this as your own private drainage arrangement. Septic tanks can be of brick, concrete or modern GRP construction but should all operate on the principle of solids being broken down by bacteria, the partly treated foul water then being disposed of by discharge into adjacent ground by a system of soakaways, land drains or perforated pipes. The solids are then collected.

A brief history of septic tanks

These came originally from literally a hole in the ground. They were then formed in brickwork, some of which were lined, but more recently they have been formed in glass reinforced plastic, where the trade name of Klargester has become almost a household name (like Hoover and Dyson).

 

Brick septic tanks problems

We have come across problems with brick septic tanks, where they have not been maintained and the joints have weathered over the years. This allows groundwater into tanks, meaning that during the winter months they fill up very quickly. One key feature of septic tanks is the land drains or the drain fields. These are underground pipes that allow the liquids to filter in a designated area. This, of course, very much depends upon the ground they are going into and in clay areas it is usually not considered good practice to have land drains.

 

Seepage pits

You may, on rare occasions, come across seepage pits. These were the forerunner of the septic tank systems, which are large pits with honeycomb type brickwork, perforated concrete, which allows the sewerage to seep into the ground. Of course, the ground conditions have to be appropriate!

 

Septic pool

The modern seepage pit, where a property's foul drains discharge to a cesspool, traditionally an underground chamber designed for the storage of foul water. Once the chamber has filled it will require pumping out by the Local Authority or a private contractor.

 

What are manholes (more commonly known as access chambers) for?

This is a requirement where drains meet, or they turn a corner, as these are likely areas for blockage and it allows an area that can be accessed for inspection.

 

Brick manholes

Nicubunu Rpg Map Brick Border Clipart

Although very common, they are rarity in new construction works. They are generally considered a pain to carry out the building of the manhole in brick.

We do come across brick manholes where the sides have spalled, we assume due to groundwater pressure, and repairs are needed.

 

Plastic manholes

The circular plastic manhole; probably more correctly referred to as an access chamber, and you certainly couldn't get down inside it. This has taken over as the most commonly used form of manhole. These arrived with a number of pre-formed pipes.

 

Concrete ring manholes

Also relatively common, these are pre-cast, pre-formed manhole ring, that you literally just stack on top of each other. The benefits are that you can still form the haunchings, so you can have a tailor made drainage system, in a similar way to the brick manholes.

 

Drainage tests

 

Air test

water supply

A bung or balloon is used to test the effectiveness of foul water drains. It tends to always be foul water drains, as this is to stop sewerage leaking into the water table level, which would not be good for our drinking water. This involves putting bungs on the ends of the pipes and then filling with air. A manometer is used, which is a u-shaped tube filled with water to see how quickly/slowly the air escapes.

 

 

Water test

Again, this is carried out to ensure that sewerage isn't leaking into the ground and therefore into our water table. This is where bungs or balloons are put in to pipes. It is filled up with water to see if the water leaks out.

 

What are rodding eyes for?

In recent years, possibly for economics, possibly because manholes were considered not necessary, a smaller rodding eye has been used where there would sometimes be a manhole. This does allow drainage rods to clean a blocked drain.

 

Methods of cleaning the drains

Corkscrew Opener Clipart

Pig tails, etc, and pressure jetting

We have seen various drainage rods over the years, but the pig tail is the one we remember, which is like a cork screw on the end of the drainage rod and is literally for rodding and cleaning out the drains. We have also heard stories about them being pressure jetted. Pressure jetting works very effectively but sometimes wrecks the joints.

 

Checking the condition of your drains

 

Closed circuit TV cameras

We found closed circuit TV cameras to be an excellent way of checking the condition of drains. Firstly, the cameras will look through the drains and you will be offered a report on the condition; any cracks, any joint problems, etc, and at the same time they do actually clean the drain, as it is the only way you can get the camera down, so it is well worth having a closed circuit TV camera report carried out on your drains, particularly if they are old.

 

You may also be interested in these other articles:

 

Resolving Dampness in your Basement

Dampness in Buildings - Basics Article

Dampness in Buildings - Technical Article

Dampness Defects Report

Dampness Problems

Please see our section on:

Specific Defects Reports

 

If you truly do want an independent expert opinion from a chartered surveyor with regard to structural surveys, building surveys, structural reports, engineers reports, specific defects report, dampness issues, dilapidations, home buyers reports or any other property matters please contact 0800 298 5424 for a chartered surveyor to give you a call back.

If you have a commercial property, be it leasehold or freehold, then you may wish to look at our Dilapidations Website at www.DilapsHelp.com and for Disputes go to our Disputes Help site www.DisputesHelp.com .

We hope you found the article of use and if you have any experiences that you feel should be added to this article that would benefit others, or you feel that some of the information that we have put is wrong then please do not hesitate to contact us (we are only human).

The contents of the web site are for general information only and is not intended to be relied upon for specific or general decisions. Appropriate independent professional advice should be paid for before making such a decision.

All rights are reserved the contents of the web site is not to be reproduced or transmitted in any form in whole or part without the express written permission of www.1stAssociated.co.uk.

 

 

Home Buyers Reports Property Surveys - why we're the best. Engineers Reports
© Copyright 1stAssociated.co.uk
Site Map

Quick Links:

Residential Property Surveying

Accessing Chimneys
Advice On Disputes
Animals and Plants Living around your Building
Beautifully Naive Thoughts
Approved Inspectors -v- Local Authority Building Control Officers
Are Surveys Better Than Valuations?
Asbestos
Asphalt Flat Roofs
Basement Conversions
Builders, Building Problems and Roofs and how a Chartered Surveyor can help
Building Regulations
Building Control Approval
Boundary Disputes
Boundary Disputes Solved with Common Sense
Building Disputes
Building Survey Glossary
Building Surveys or Structural Surveys
Buying and Selling General Information
Buying a house
Buying at Auction Information
Buying Off-Market -v- Buying at Auction
Buying Property at Auction
Can you trust a Chartered Surveyors Valuation
Cavity Wall Problems
Chartered Surveyors pt1
Chartered Surveyors pt2
Cheap Building Surveys, or being wrongly advised by your Building Surveyor
Close Boarding
Chimney Issues
Common Chimney Problems
Compare Building Surveys
Compare Home Buyers Reports
Common Pitched Roofs
Condensation and Cold Bridging
Condensation
Condensation and Damp Walls
Condensation problems
Conservatories, sometimes called Sunrooms
Cowboy Builders and Cowboy Clients
Cracking and Movement Information
Cracking to my Plaster
Cracks in my Wall
Damp in properties
Damp Meters
Damp Proof Course, How do older properties keep dry without one?
Damp Proof Courses, What are these for?
Damp Proof Courses Defined
Damp Proof Courses and Modern Property
Damp Proof Courses in Older Properties?
Damp Proof Specialists, Talk to us First
Damp Surveying To A Different Standard
Dampness Defects Report
Dampness Problems
Damp Walls
Dampness A Different View
Dampness in buildings - the basics
Dangers of working on your own
Definitions of Building terms
Deteriorating Brickwork Cement Repointing
Do All Houses Have Condensation?
Disputes
Do Banks and Building Society Surveyors Really Value Property?
Do Chartered Surveyors Value Property?
Dormer Roof Leaking
Drainage and Manholes
Dry Verges
Energy Efficiency Have We Got It All Wrong?
Energy Surveys or Energy Condition Reports v Thermal Imaging
Engineers Report
Environmental Reports
Estate Agents
Can You Trust an Estate Agent?
Estate Agent, There is no point being honest
Do Estate Agents Tell The Truth Or Do They Just Want a House Sale?
Estimating Building Costs
Expert Witness
Fascia and Soffit Board Problems
Financial Advisers
Flat Roofs
Foundations
Foundations and Underpinning
French Drains
From Fire Marks to Surveyor John Braid Wood
Georgian and Regency Properties and their common problems
Get a Survey Quote
Good Design can Save you Money
Health and Safety in the Property Industry
Help! My House Is Falling Down
Homebuyers Report or Structural Survey
How do older properties keep dry without a damp proof course?
How, in our experience, insurance companies deal with cracks in properties
How to Buy a Property at Auction, FAQs
How to get on with your Builder
How to Solve Building Disputes
Independant Financial Advisers - Are they Independent?
Independant Financial Advisors pt1
Independant Financial Advisors pt2
Insulation, DPCs and Energy Performance Certificates
Insurance Claim
Insurance Claim Against Surveyors
Insurance Companies
It is important to remember where builders come from
Leaking Dormer Roofs
Leaking Flat Roofs
Lime Mortar
Listed Buildings and Character Properties
Location, Location, Location
Loft Conversions
Modern Timber Frame Properties and their common problems
1970s Modern Timber Frame Properties
Mortgage Valuations
Mortgages Aren't they interesting?
Movement and Cracking Information
My House Is Too Hot
My property has been repointed in a cement mortar, what can I do?
New Houses and Wood Cladding
NHBC Warranty Problems
Noisy Neighbour - A Different Sort
Non Traditional Housing
Not So Common Pitched Roofs
Old ceilings and how to repair them
Parking Dispute
Party Walls
Places of Worship and D1 User Class Buildings
Pre and Post Suburban Properties and their common problems
Pre Sales Survey
Pre School And Day Nursery Dampness And Condensation Problems
Problem Solving
Problems with cap over and overclad fascia and soffit boards
Problems with fascia and soffit boards
Problems with Roof Windows, Roof Lights and Sky Lights
Property Eras and Common Problems
Property Acquisition Companies
Property Investors Wanted
Property Management - It's all about cash flow
Sorting out Property Problems with Solicitors and Surveyors
Property Refurbishment
Property Valuations
Renting out a property Have you thought about this?
Repairing Cracks
Residential Surveys
Resolving dampness in your basement
Rising damp, or is it
Rising Damp and Independent Reports
Rising Damp, Condensation and Damp through Walls
Roof Problems and Information
Roof Problems
Roof Windows, Roof Lights, Sky Lights and Light Tunnels
Settlement, Subsidence and Heave
Shared Freehold and Problems with Damp
Should I buy or sell land?
Should I have a Structural Survey?
Solar The Options
Specific Defects Reports
Spray Foam Insulation in Roofs
Structural Cracking
Structural Report
Structural Surveys
Structural Survey, What Does a Chartered Surveyor Do?
Structural Wall
Structural walls or non-structural walls
The Great Fire of London
Thermal Imaging
Traditional and Non-Traditional Properties, What are they?
Traditional Tudor Timber Frame Properties and their common problems
Unhealthy alliance between Estate Agents and Surveyors
Valuation
Valuation the same, Snap
Value and Worth The Moral Maze
Valuations Information
Victorian and Edwardian Properties and their common problems
Wall Issues
Wall Tie Problems
What Is An Independent Survey?
What is my Home Worth?
What type of doors do i have and are they worth saving?
Where do i find a good builder?
Where is my boundary?
Who ensures your builder does a good job?
Why Do Building Costs Always Go Up?
Why Have One Of Our Surveys?
Why Have a Residential Survey?
Why Use Us?
Why You Have Never Seen any Building Surveys or Structural Surveys Like Ours
Woodworm problems in the floor
Woodworm Treatment
 

Commercial Property Surveying

Directories and Indexes that you can find us in on the Internet

A-Z of Dilapidations
Asbestos
Beware of the Late Served Schedule of Dilapidations by the Landlord
Break Clauses, Are they Worth it?
Building Survey Glossary
Buying a Commercial Property at Auction
Buying at Auction Information
Commercial Property, What is a Primary, Secondary or Tertiary Property?
Commercial Surveys
Commercial Survey Forms
Compare Commercial Surveys
Compare Commercial Building Surveys
Commercial - Dealing with Asbestos in Retail Units
Dilapidations and Chartered Accountants and your Accounts
Dilapidantions Negotiations (Landlord or Landlord's Surveyor not acting fairly)
Dilaps and Poker Playing
Dilaps Break Clauses
Dilaps Claim
Dilaps Claim by a Landlord
Dilaps Disagreements on the Repairs Needed
Dilaps Dilaps Help Course Book, Comments by Vivien King
Dilaps More Information
Experienced Businesspeople understand the importance of a Schedule of Condition being appended to a Lease
Expert Witness
Good Design can Save you Money
Health and Safety in the Property Industry
How do Civil Procedure Laws Affect Dilapidations
How to read a Dilapidations Schedule
Industrial Commercial Properties - The Asbestos Cement Dilemma
Information about Buying at Auction
Interim Dilapidations
Landlords
Landlords and Tenants
Landlords can you have too good a retail tenant?
Landlords can you have too good an industrial tenant?
Landlords Industrial Properties
Landlord's view on a new business taking on a lease
Landlords Retail Investment Properties
Landlords What can we do for You?
Lease Negotiations with your Landlord
My First Lease What Should I Do?
Negotiating Dilapidations
Negotiating with a Landlord
Negotiating FRI Lease Clauses
Property Report
Reading your Village, Town and City
Retail Leases or Licences
RICS Guidance Notes on Dilapidations
Schedule of Condition - What should I expect?
Scedule of Conditions for Commercial Properties
Scott's Schedules
Section 18 Valuation
Structural Survey
The Lazy Solicitor and the Lease
Tenants
Terminal Schedules of Dilapidations
Vivian King on RICS Guidance Note and Dilaps
What is a Schedule of Condition?
Why Advanced Rent
Your Lease in Plain English

Links to Surveyors and Property Related Companies Around the World

 

Property Courses

Dilapidations - New Improved Presentations Click Here

Dilapidations - Original Presentations Click Here

Party Walls Presentations Click Here

Building Surveying Presentations Click Here

Building Surveys New Improved Click Here

Final Countdown Presentations Click Here

Lectures 1 Click Here

Lectures 2 Click Here

Building Pathology
Building Survey Glossary
Building Surveying Acapulco Presentation
Building Surveying Clients and Introduction Presentation
Building Surveying Executive Summaries Presentation
Building Surveying Follow the Trail Presentation
Building Surveying Survey Groups and Managing Presentation
Building Surveying Project Minutes
Building Surveying Questions Georgian and Regency
Building Surveying Questions Modern Timber Frame
Building Surveying Questions Pre and Post Suburban Years
Building Surveying Questions Traditional Timber Frame
Building Surveying Questions Victorian and Edwardian
Buying and Selling Your Property Course: Course Aim
Commercial and Section 18 Valuations Presentation 5
Commercial Building Survey Example Presentation 5
Dilapidations Courses
Dilapidations Courses
Dilapidations Follow the Trail Presentation 3
Dilapidations Introduction to Surveying Presentation
Dilapidations Legal Framework Presentation 4
Dilapidations Overview and Schedules of Condition New Presentation 1
Dilapidations Overview and Schedules of Condition Presentation 1
Dilapidations Review Industrial New Presentation 3
Dilapidations Review Property Reports New Presentation 2
Dilapidations Review Schedules of Condition and Property Reports New Presentation 1
Dilapidations Review Industrial Presentation 3
Dilapidations Review Property Reports Presentation 2
Dilapidations Review Schedules of Condition and Property Reports Presentation 1
Dilapidations Review of Schedules of Condition and Property Reports Presentation 3
Dilaps Help Course Book, Comments by Vivien King
Dilaps Help Presentation 9
Property Eras Georgian and Victorian Photos Presentation
Property Eras Georgian Photos Presentation
Property Eras Modern Photos Presentation
Property Eras Post War and Modern Photos Presentation
Property Eras Post War Photos Presentation
Property Eras Regency, Victorian, Post War and Modern Photos Presentation
Property Eras Tudor Photos Presentation
Property Eras Victorian Photos Presentation
Estimating Building Costs Presentation 5
Final Countdown - Last 3 Weeks Presentation
Final Countdown - Dilapidations Example Presentation
Final Countdown - Schedule of Condition Example Presentation
Final Countdown - Last 2 Weeks - Expert Witness Presentation
Final Countdown - Last 2 Weeks - Speaker Review Presentation
Final Countdown - Last Week - Party Walls Presentation
Goals, Presentations and Offices Presentation 6
Improving Your Presentation
Industrial Dilapidations Presentation 3
Industrial Unit Dilapidations Issues in Photos Presentation 3
Leases RICS Guidance and Protocol Presentation 3
Our Beliefs and Values
Outstanding Building Surveys Presentation
Party Walls Five Types of Party Walls Presentation 1
Party Walls Example used in Presentation 1
Presentations, New Presentation 8
Presentations, Presentation 8
Property As An Investment Course
Property Report and Schedule of Condition Example Presentation 5
Property Courses
Reading your Village, Town and City
Reading your Village, Town and City for Dilaps Students
RICS Guidance Notes Presentation 7
Schedules of Dilapidations Review Presentation 6

1st Associated Chartered Surveyors Are Also Available in the Following Areas:

East Anglia and East

Norfolk
Suffolk
Essex
Cambridgeshire
Lincolnshire

South and South East

Isle of Wight
East Sussex
West Sussex
Surrey
Kent
Berkshire
Oxfordshire
Buckinghamshire
Bedfordshire
Hertfordshire

West Country and South West

Cornwall
Devon
Somerset
Bristol
Dorset
Wiltshire
Hampshire
Gloucestershire
Shropshire
Herefordshire
 

Midlands

Northamptonshire
Rutland
Leicestershire
Nottinghamshire
Derbyshire
Warwickshire
Staffordshire
Worcestershire
West Midlands

North and North East

Cheshire
Cleveland
Merseyside
Lancashire
Cumbria
West Yorkshire
South Yorkshire
East Riding Of Yorkshire
North Yorkshire
Northumberland
Tyne and Wear
Durham
Greater Manchester

Wales

Blaenau Gwent
Bridgend
Caerphilly
Cardiff
Carmarthenshire
Ceredigion
Conwy
Denbighsire
Flintshire
Gwynedd
Isle of Anglesey
Merthyr Tydfil
Monmouthshire
Neath Port Talbot
Newport
Pembrokeshire
Powys
Rhonda Cynon Taff
Swansea
Torfaen
Cardiff
Vale of Glamorgan
Wrexham
 

London

Central London
- City of London
- City of Westminster
- Soho
- Kensington
- Chelsea
- Hammersmith and Fulham
- Wandsworth
- Lambeth
- Southwark
- Tower Hamlets
- Hackney
- Islington
- Camden
- Brent
- Ealing
- Stratford
- Hounslow
- Richmond upon Thames
- Kingston upon Thames
- Merton
- Sutton
- Croydon
- Bromley
- Lewisham
- Greenwich
- Bexley
- Marylebone
- Havering
- Barking
- Dagenham
- Redbridge
- Newham
- Waltham Forest
- Haringey
- Enfield
- Barnet
- Harrow
- Hillingdon
North London
South London
East London
West London

This firm does not accept service of documents by email or fax

Admin/Registered Office:

Hoo View House
Stanley Street
Bedford
Bedfordshire
MK45 7RU